4x09 "Gabriel Agreste"

[alexseanchai]

Isn't he always the villain of the piece?

Assume the comments have spoilers for all episodes that have aired in any language. The only episodes that have premiered somewhere in the world but have yet to air in English are this one, but that will change on November 20, and 4x22 "Ephemeral", which we'll get on November 27.

We're still waiting on world premiere dates for episodes 5, 20, and 23 through 26. For those of you waiting to watch the series in order, official source ladyofacat tells us:

Now that Gabriel Agreste is out, JUST A SUGGESTION, I recommend you rewatch the episodes in order! Until Qilin (ep 20) at least? You'll enjoy the story so much more, plus you'll actually see the build up and notice patterns and clues.

Don't worry too much about ep 5.

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Comments

[alexseanchai]

There is a great deal to process in this episode but I am stuck on two-faced Bob Roth

[alexseanchai]

so did I call it two and a half years ago or did I call it

also I wrote a post-episode bit to drabble_zone prompt "Light":

illūminem (100 words) by AlexSeanchai
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Marc Anciel/Nathaniel Kurtzberg
Characters: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Nathaniel Kurtzberg
Additional Tags: Adrinette | Adrien Agreste/Marinette Dupain-Cheng, Episode: s04e09 Gabriel Agreste, Genderbending, Demigirl Marinette Dupain-Cheng, Genderfluid Marc Anciel, Demisexual Adrien Agreste, Queer Nathaniel Kurtzberg, Queer Het, Dialogue-Only, Drabble, Community: drabble_zone, Podfic Welcome
Summary:

Adrien is questioning some assumptions; maybe Nathaniel can shed some light on the subject.

[chanter1944]

Just to be sure, I'm now basically good to watch up through ep 19 in English, without missing something vital or getting myself jossed? *bouncybouncybounce*

[alexseanchai]

The English dub of episode 9 is not out until Saturday. But then yes, you will have eleven episodes to marathon!

[chanter1944]

Eeeeee, says I!

[soc_puppet]

Okay, but for all the "Rapunzel" comparisons Adrien gets, those were some serious Disney's Sleeping Beauty references in Marc and Nath's comic. Pretty sure down to the red cloak, though the Red Riding Hood comic interpretation was also cute.

[alexseanchai]

very much so

which, I just saw a Tumblr post critiquing the idea that casting Adrien as a Disney princess means he's clearly only a love interest, which as OP observes is absurd because almost all the Disney princesses are the protagonists and heroes of their own story

and, setting aside Snow White because I'm honestly not sure who's the protagonist there (definitely not Prince Whatsis; possibly the seven dwarfs, but only taken collectively), Sleeping Beauty is one of the two who are not

dunno what to make of that yet

and the other is Jasmine, and I still think one of the easiest ways of explaining kwamis to the legal purposes starts with a screening of Aladdin